Iranian Nuclear Threat
“Very Lenient” West
EUBULLETIN talked in an exclusive interview with Mr Perviz S. Khazai, who is
one of the leaders of National Council of Resistance of Iran (NCRI). The NCRI,
which was founded in France in 1981, is one of the two parliaments in exile of the
and also a political umbrella organization of five Iranian opposition political
the largest organization being the People’s Mujahedin of Iran (MEK).
EUBULLETIN: The National Council of Resistance of Iran (NCRI), of which
you are a representative, aims to establish a democratic, secular and coalition
government in Iran.
How would you describe the progress towards this ambitious goal?
Khazai: The most basic thing is to have big will power. There are nations that
get rid of Nazism or dictatorship before – like Poland or Czechoslovakia –
which have a
long record of fighting against the dictators, regime, and the system. Iran
is a very old
country, one of the first layers of civilizations. The Cyrus Cylinder – the
declaration of human rights – originated in today’s Iran and was written in
the 6th century
BC by Cyrus the Great.
Over 100 years, we have struggled for freedom. The first serious attempt to
was in 1905-1907 when the king was forced to accept constitutional monarchy
(the Persian Constitutional Revolution) and the second attempt followed later
during the 1953 Iranian
coup d’état. Both attempts failed. In the Cold War period, Teheran was
mostly in hands
of pro-Moscow rulers. Iran was a de facto pro-Moscow satellite –
Iranistan – one-party
EUBULLETIN: And then the infamous revolution of 1979 came.
Khazai: Yes, in 1979, the revolution started – the most expendable revolution.
I was a
young diplomat then, I joined the revolution because it began as a democratic
not an Islamist one, but the clergy, lack of institutions and prevalence of
there too with their money, and power trying to hijack the ideals. It began as a
– all people of Iran together – the Muslims, Christians, Jews – but it was all
Khomeini to create the Shia Khaliphate. After the revolution, there was
only 15 months. I soon realized that Khomeini was ready to establish Nazism.
The NCRI is a 600-member strong organization where about 90 percent of
women. We believe that the liberalization of women means the liberalization
of the entire
nation and we have many activities such as non-stop satellite TV reporting
activities in the Parliament, we organize rallies which are attended by many
VIPs, American congressmen and presidential candidates.
EUBULLETIN: Before the continuation of nuclear talks between the Western
and the Iranian regime, you warned of “illusions”. Does this effectively mean
are on the side of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and a few
in the U.S. Congress?
Khazai: The NCRI has rendered one of the biggest services to humanity by
the world that the regime is constructing an atomic bomb. The regime is basically
by two pillars – exporting extremism in the region and making of an atomic bomb
are its two raisons d’être. An atomic bomb is a guarantee for the existence of the
It is the same scenario as in North Korea, which is a very peculiar country. The
only tool to
survive is to make the bomb. The Iranian regime has been hiding it from the
years, secretly taking help from Soviet scientists. In 2002 when we presented
the regime had been trying to construct an atomic bomb, the whole world was
are very happy we said it to the world.
You know, Hitler was also trying to build an atomic bomb, in Norway, and had he
to do it before Oppenheimer, our world would be different today. But the Iranian
is still proceeding to make a bomb underground. They are cheating the West as
shows its indecisiveness. The Obama administration is very lenient and Iran
sees it as a
weakness, they have the courage to proceed, they are playing with the West.
EUBULLETIN: You seem to be genuinely sceptical of any kind of deal that will
as a result of the negotiations between the so-called P5+1 – the U.S., UK,
and Russia plus Germany – and Iran.
Khazai: The new deal is saying that the West must be constantly checking
regime is abiding but the regime has hidden sites inside military zones. Pasdaran
(Note: the Revolutionary Guards intended to protect the country’s Islamic system),
something like the
SS army, is protecting atomic plants inside military installations. It is not done
by a regular
army but by this specialized SS-like branch of Iran’s Armed Forces. The regime
these plants and it will never agree that these places are checked by international
We share agony of all the people who are against the regime. The regime has
Iran and cannot be trusted. It is cheating Iranians themselves and lying about
They think that the North Korea-like scenario is the only continuation of their
rule. In Iran,
percent of the people are poor, they do not get salaries. The regime needs an
external crisis. Remember what Orwell wrote in his 1984 – the big brother needs
a foreign enemy. They
need an atomic bomb.
In Hiroshima, atomic bombs were heavy but today you can make an atomic
bomb that is a
size of a Coca Cola bottle. You can carry it in a briefcase. They have no
could come to the city of London, New York and … This is not a pessimist
. some naïve people think this could not happen